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These 'behind the scene' glimpses help me to appreciate all the hard work, (blood sweat, tears, grey hairs, high blood pressure, increased coffee and wine consumption etc!) that you put into making your books easy to read, easy in the sense that they always seems to flow smoothly, no jarring irritants and inconsistencies that catch my attention and distract from the storytelling. Obviously all of this does not come without tensions along the way, but I do think you achieve that smooth flow. And the inconsistencies between copy editors must make you want to scream. (I would go for 'the Major' and 'the Squire' and I can't think of a word or phrase that so succinctly describes the idea of disconnect with any brevity) From now on I will try and be more patient after I read your book and then realise I have another 12 months to wait for the next instalment, knowing all the hard work that goes into each creation. The thing is, you know where it is all going over the next few books, i.e. next few years, and I want to know now! Okay, so I have to work on my impatience issues. Just know that I am looking forward to March 2016 (and March 2017 and ......)<br />Cheers, RhondaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-17111912475442091452015-08-20T13:23:38.296-05:002015-08-20T13:23:38.296-05:00I did a little sleuthing and Googling on capitaliz...I did a little sleuthing and Googling on capitalization of titles. Guidance seems to be all over the map unless the title comes directly before the name of the person, as in Major Joe Smith. One site did say that if major is used alone to refer to the Major Smith then it should be capitalized. As retired military myself I would agree with that and might be willing to fall on my sword over it. But I can understand how in the interests of time and effort, you have to pick your battles. And whether the Major or the major is used probably doesn't really change the story or the atmosphere or mood of a scene...maybe that is why not being able to use 'disconnect' is such a shame...it explains much about what the character is feeling or may/might/did react to the action, it is part of the story and necessary. <br /><br />On the track changes, I have written documents for the US military and when you get multiple people changing a document, it gets really fun. I agree it can be frustrating, though I believe it is a necessary evil and in my experience does speed along getting documents edited and formatted according to standard (the US govt publishes oodles of guidance on editing standards and how to format). <br /><br />The result is that when we readers read books that have not been copy edited very well, we notice and it can be jarring. <br /><br />So...thank you for the hours you spend reviewing the copy edits. We appreciate your writing and love your stories and all your hard work which create the early 19th century ambience and sense of place that pervades your books. Please do NOT write contemporaries!.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17452798379450690837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-29754510717458110112015-08-20T11:44:34.600-05:002015-08-20T11:44:34.600-05:00Shall we all meet at Hyde Park Corner? Do people ...Shall we all meet at Hyde Park Corner? Do people still make speeches on soap boxes there?Susan J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-53467273607878724982015-08-20T07:52:25.798-05:002015-08-20T07:52:25.798-05:00Lynne, ha! I suspect that could be a very crowded ...Lynne, ha! I suspect that could be a very crowded soapbox!cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-21430675447627618822015-08-20T00:56:27.218-05:002015-08-20T00:56:27.218-05:00Uh-oh! Susan is trying to climb on that soapbox wi...Uh-oh! Susan is trying to climb on that soapbox with you and me, Candy! Susan, you are so right! And I like the dustmen story, too. We have a trivia show called Jeopardy on US tv and I'm continually horrified at the simple things people don't know. Oh, dear...we could go on and on...Lynnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-1990674482081035772015-08-19T21:33:16.707-05:002015-08-19T21:33:16.707-05:00Lynne, there is a reason I really do appreciate my...Lynne, there is a reason I really do appreciate my copyeditor, as much as I complain.<br /><br />Susan, I know; I could climb up on a soapbox and rant for hours. And that's funny about the team of dustmen!cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-1491027758604644582015-08-19T13:54:42.076-05:002015-08-19T13:54:42.076-05:00Can't believe that about the newspapers! What...Can't believe that about the newspapers! What is this world coming to when people can't even have enough concentration to get to the end of an article without being baby fed? What gets me is these people, usually younger than forty, have often been to university, yet they seem as ignorant as hell! I did not, like many English people of my generation have the chance to go to university, except as an adult student, on a part time basis. I do not, however, need to have my reading matter fed to me in easy doses, thank you very much! It makes me sick when I watch TV quiz shows where you get some young thing who is embarrassingly ignorant, particularly about literature and history, yet went to university and has some fancy sounding job. One week they had a team of older dustmen (garbage collectors) who were better informed! Susan J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-31424670357943065132015-08-18T23:27:05.576-05:002015-08-18T23:27:05.576-05:00Candy - Not sure if it was self-published and I sh...Candy - Not sure if it was self-published and I should have looked, although I noticed on Amazon that the man has a ton of books. Yes, he should have had an editor - an unbiased eye catches so much more than the author can. Lynnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-39667585445002851122015-08-18T10:56:50.652-05:002015-08-18T10:56:50.652-05:00Rachel, I read my books over dozens of times, and ...Rachel, I read my books over dozens of times, and it always amazes me the things that slip past. The author's mind sees what she meant to write, not what's actually there on the page. It's so frustrating. Good luck with your submission!<br /><br />Suzanne, yes, one of the perks of being a Big Name is being able to request the same copyeditor.<br /><br />Lynne, was it self-published? If so, it's too bad he didn't hire an editor and copyeditor. They really are necessary. <br /><br />Sabena, yes, it's the inconsistency and the resultant time lost that for some reason sent me through the roof this time. I would gladly conform if we could just pick a style and stick with it. cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-43584198832304593772015-08-18T00:10:03.376-05:002015-08-18T00:10:03.376-05:00Argh... auto correct. I obviously have issues the...Argh... auto correct. I obviously have issues there too. I changed redlined back to redlines twice and it changed it.... sigh. Sabena Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-46938537657599568412015-08-18T00:07:24.624-05:002015-08-18T00:07:24.624-05:00I'm in for whining with wine. I have to admit...I'm in for whining with wine. I have to admit though, as a contracts lawyer I deal with the bubbles and redlined all day long. The hard part, as you say, is when something can be written multiple ways and many times it is just a style issue. With multiple copy editors, the multiple styles are killing you. It is the same if you are working with one attorney and all of a sudden they are switched out and you have to redo things already agreed upon once, or new totally different things get changed as those are the particular hot button for that specific attorney. Agree with Lynne, I read so fast the small stuff usually escapes me. It is the past tenses that bug me... why can't you say dreamt or leapt, etch. It's how I learned them and the other way is always jarring to me. Hope you are done soon. Sabena Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-68457200063256109382015-08-17T23:18:28.674-05:002015-08-17T23:18:28.674-05:00Candy - your comment to Susan about caps really ir...Candy - your comment to Susan about caps really irks me - journalism is not the same as writing fiction. I'm not an expert but that was a basic we learned in journalism class years and year ago. Dumb! That said, I'll agree with Veronica - I read fast enough that little things aren't that important. The things that set my teeth on edge are run-on sentences and grammar - neither of which are you guilty. I just finished reading an e-book written by a Christian pastor that was so badly done I wrote a review on Amazon that was very negative. His whole very powerful message was lost because his sentences just made no sense and were grammatically incorrect. Yes, I feel a bit guilty and a lot like the grammar Nazi but those are the noticeable things in writing. To your credit, your books always flow very well and are so readable that I can't put them down.<br /> <br />Gee, wouldn't it be fun if we could all get together for wine and whine?Lynnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-77410112457790371472015-08-17T22:53:24.127-05:002015-08-17T22:53:24.127-05:00It must be a nightmare getting a new copy editor e...It must be a nightmare getting a new copy editor every year, you wouldn't get the chance to know how they work, what sort of things they jump all over and so on. It is a hard enough job already without having to break in a new one every year. I really feel for you.Suzannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-30200717236487433472015-08-17T19:49:49.451-05:002015-08-17T19:49:49.451-05:00Candy, I'm in the process of line editing my o...Candy, I'm in the process of line editing my own manuscript (final draft of an historical mystery I'll be sending out on submission as soon as I'm done) and that's driving me bonkers enough! The prospect of one day having to deal with copy edits both excites and completely terrifies me ...<br /><br />Keep up the hard work, and know that your readers appreciate it so very much! :-)Rachel Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406943046329566026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-30350205677724207612015-08-17T15:40:02.029-05:002015-08-17T15:40:02.029-05:00Ali, I will confess to printing the whole damn boo...Ali, I will confess to printing the whole damn book out and sitting down to read it that way. The problem is, that in order to fit on a page with those bubbles, the print is teeny-tiny. In the past I could handle it; this year I kept reaching for my magnifying glass! I do appreciate my copyeditors; I just wish they could be consistent. In an ideal world, I'd get the same one every year.<br /><br />Charles, yes; the only books that do well that way are episodic. <br /><br />Veronica, it's nice to be appreciated! :)<br /><br />Susan, if my books were printed in England I would so want someone to edit them again for spelling and language usage! I've been told the rules on capitalization are changing because newspapers discovered that caps slow readers down, making them more likely to stop reading an article; now everyone is now adopting the newspaper rules. <br />cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-15518182976290496722015-08-17T13:52:08.065-05:002015-08-17T13:52:08.065-05:00It sounds an absolute nightmare! I've noticed...It sounds an absolute nightmare! I've noticed this thing about using capitals or not using them these days, like 'the Major or the major'. I end up not knowing what's correct and what's not. I don't mind American spelling if the book was published in America but it does jarr a bit when the book has been published later in Britain, as many of Mary Balogh's have been, particularly as she is British, even if she lives in Canada now.<br />Anyway, good luck with it all, I'm sure the finished book will be up to your usual standards.Susan J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-55501042078866415272015-08-17T12:31:03.591-05:002015-08-17T12:31:03.591-05:00Well said Veronica!
AliWell said Veronica!<br />AliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-48833129839561088202015-08-17T12:27:48.323-05:002015-08-17T12:27:48.323-05:00I suppose, as with most things in life, we must ta...I suppose, as with most things in life, we must take the good with the bad. Keep your chin up and know that your readers love what you do, whether it be Squire or squire. ;-)<br /><br />VeronicaJustWingingIthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07301142585677371885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-89099984951057832102015-08-17T10:56:32.143-05:002015-08-17T10:56:32.143-05:00That's a problem with reading groups reading s...That's a problem with reading groups reading sections of a novel as well. It just doesn't hang together in the microcosm.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-54482143134255760152015-08-17T10:30:08.113-05:002015-08-17T10:30:08.113-05:00Candy - I agree with Lynne I would never be able t...Candy - I agree with Lynne I would never be able to handle correcting anything with those little bubble pop ups. I have had to work on some legal documents like that in my job - it sucks - plain english. Drinking wine would be mandatory for me. I would think the most important issue would be for someone doing copy edit is to find actual spelling and grammar errors and things like Grace or Isabella. Not whether your style is modern or non-modern (??) As long as it makes sense to the story why should it matter. Shows you just how little I know about writing books. This process must be incredibly painful to say the least. And I don't read many contemporaries but if you wrote one I certainly would. Best, AliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-90628199979866629012015-08-17T09:03:00.569-05:002015-08-17T09:03:00.569-05:00Angel did that! He hit return just as I hit post.Angel did that! He hit return just as I hit post.cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27125272.post-27380903849609232162015-08-17T09:02:26.843-05:002015-08-17T09:02:26.843-05:00Suzanne, I have a hard enough time getting them to...Suzanne, I have a hard enough time getting them to leave in non-contemporary American patterns of speech; I would never get British spelling to fly! I can't even get them to let me write "dreamt" unless it slips past them.<br /><br />Barbara, I suspect they save a ton of money having the copyeditor and I both use Track Changes, but the program was really acting up on me<br /><br /><br /> yesterday, which was giving me fits. And yes, autocorrect is part of the problem. But I also have a tendency to think one thing and type another when my mind is on the story. I actually am toying with the idea of a contemporary about a descendant of Jamie Knox!cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.com